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From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 30, 2003, 7:17
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From: "Robert B Wilson" <han_solo55@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:00 AM

> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:17:44 +0100 Joe <joe@...> writes: > > > > > i've been working on an a posteriori conlang and i finally started > > > translating the babel text today. here's what i have so far: > > > > > > gela erða hagd agn ðunga unð ssart vrasa. wa menu raft ast, gi vuð > > velðu > > > in senar unð gemvuðlat ðar. > > > ðe zagt ðezalve, "suvan, wel masan zzusas unð basan gi vulig." gi > > nadat > > > slaga vur zdana unð ðeru vur liva. > > > > > > what do y'all think? > > > > just posted a near identical post to mine. > > i think i missed your post, but now that i look at it they are very > similar... i've been working on this conlang for a few days and i was > looking for something to translate and my bible was sitting on the desk > right here. great minds think alike, i guess. > > > looks...English. It's West Germanic, I think, but I > > couldn't > > say any more. > > i'm not sure what you mean when you say it looks english. i'm not really > satisfied with it yet, "ðunga", "vrasa", "velðu", "slaga", and "ðeru" > should probably be "nunga", "mrasa", "melðu", "nhlaga", and "neru" (see > the pattern?), but i'm not sure what to do with "zdana" and "liva"...
When I say it looks English, I means it looks closely related to English. You use |g| for [j], which is a very OE thing to do(though North Germanic langs do it too). Juging by 'vuð', having the dropped |n| before a fricative(is |ð| just a general dental fricative, or just a voiced one?) I'd say it's definitely West Germanic, and closer to English than German. Though it looks odd having both |vuð| and |unð|. So...voiced stops>fricatives, voiceless stops and fricatives>nasals? Actually, I am stuck by the distinct lack of non-final voiceless stops.