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Eurogen,Sinogen,Terragen(wasRe: OT Academia)

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 10, 2002, 5:40
In a message dated 07/09/2002 01.08.01 PM, john cowan quotes me & writes:

>J Y S Czhang scripsit: > >> Hmm, some of the first Cantonese to encounter "White-skinned", Pigment- >> Impaired Folk thought these so-call "Caucasians" were ghosts, too... > >If Alex Haley is to be believed, so did his African ancestors.
Based on this and other "data," this seems to a possible universal ::tongue-1/2-in-cheekie:: <SNiP>
>If all of humanity were destroyed except any one small ethnic group, 80% >of human genetic variation would still be preserved.
Interesting. Does that mean the gene pool is getting shallower or that the gene salad more tossed? ;)
>> Do "of European ancestry" or "Eurogen" sound like reasonable
>> in order to describe ancestral origins/biocultural background (instead of >> so-call "racial categories")? > >Sounds good to me.
:)))) ... and in a message dated 07/09/2002 01.09.48 PM, Steg writes:
>Hmm... i like "-gen"... it's a nice suffix. >It reminds me of the David Brin "Uplift" science-fiction novels where the >multi-species clan founded by Humans, and including Neo-Dolphins, >Neo-Chimpanzees, and possibly others is known as the "Terragens".
:))))))) Two votes of confidence in my lingua-mangling/conlanging... I think I will use it creolego. It sounds sufficiently futuristic besides ;) In a message dated 07/09/2002 03.56.36 PM, barbarabarrett@ORCHIDSERVE.COM writes:
>Ditch ancestry altogether; it still implies "breeding" and thus carries >all the inferiority/superiority baggage with it. In the ancient world no >one would have understood "race" as we do today. Culture was much more >important; eg; if one grew up in ancient egypt it was where you grew up, >what culture you practised, and what language you spoke as a first >language that mattered. eg; you might have been born a Libyan, minoan, >bedu, etc, etc, but if you fulfilled the above conditions you were an >egyptian. In other words your ancestry had nothing to do with it.
Hmm, pretty good things to ponder and plunder/pulverize... ... that would make me a SinoIndonesianBritishAmerican... (but I _do_ self-identify as "SinoBritish" or "SinoEnglish")... because of just the _major_ cultures I "practise." (What about identities by subcultures *snarfle* which are becoming increasingly as or more important than one's cultural upbringing in terms of self-identification 0_o?) As to identity by language, what if a culture is bilingual or multilingual/polyglot? John Cowan: > In Grandmother Little Bear Woman's latest story suite,
>_Birthday of the World and Other Stories_, the term "Chi-An" is used for >people of Chinese ancestry.
I will hafta read that. I really like Ursula Le Guin's (Grandmother Lil Bear Woman's) writings and poetry. I hafta read _The Telling_, too.
>> Hanuman Zhang, Sinogen and sympathetic supporter of the Beige Race
>> Front and their tongue-firmly-in-cheek struggle to have a >> "Beige/Multi-Racial" category in/on US census polls and all other public >> documents
OOPSIES! ^^^^ "Beige/Multi-CULTURAL"
>Sounds good to me, as father of an "Other" (a brown-skinned person of >Hispanic descent who has no Spanish language or culture). > >Avery Brooks, the actor who played Sisko on ST:DS9, insists on being >called brown rather than black.
Hmm, sounds like he might even be one of the Beige Race Liberation Front "patrons." There are quite a few Hollywood actors and writers, etc, who are in this movement for a "beige/multi-cultural" classification or at least sympathetic to it. And I remember Mr. Brooks is quite politically out-spoken at times. Or he is just simply honoring/remembering his "White-skinned" ancestors (a highly respectable - and reconciling - decision from this Asian's viewpoint).
>One art / There is John Cowan <jcowan@...> >No less / No more >All things / To do >With sparks / Galore -- Douglas Hofstadter
Nice sig.line... ;) Steg not to be out-done in the sig.line dept. quotes:
> "rest / rest and listen / rest and listen and learn, creideiki / > for the startide rises in the currents of the dark / > and we have waited long for what must be..." > ~ _startide rising_ by david brin
Sweetnicenesses... Hanuman Zhang ~§~ "To live is to scrounge, taking what you can in order to survive. So, since living is scrounging, the result of our efforts is to amass a pile of rubbish." - Chuang Tzu/Zhuangzi, China, 4th Century BCE "The most beautiful order is a heap of sweepings piled up at random." - Heraclitus, Greece, 5th Century BCE Ars imitatur Naturam in sua operatione. [Latin > "Art is the imitation of Nature in her manner of operation."] " jinsei to iu mono wa, kinchou na geijyutsu to ieru deshou " [Japanese > "one can probably say that 'life' is a precious artform"]