Re: Hi there & Blitherings
From: | Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, July 9, 2002, 21:52 |
Barbara Barrett wrote:
> I've just re-joined after a few years away
I thought the name sounded familiar. :-) Welcome back!
> "Coutts-Barrett"
Ah, yes, I remember that one. :-) I liked it, nice and sensible.
Unfortunately, it's also unfamiliar to most people. :-( It's on the
ASCII-IPA page at http://www.cs.brown.edu/~dpb/ascii-ipa.html
> > Steg Stuttered;
> > Now, a lot of times |u| is pronounced as a diphthong whose first part is
> > [j].
>
> You'd think that wouldn't you? I know I did. But apparently phoneticians
> say rather that the consonant has been palletized.
I'd disagree because those "palatized consonants" can only precede /u/
and /r=/, *[pja] is not a legal cluster, but [pju] and [pjr=] are. It
seems an easier explanation to say that there are diphthongs /ju/ and
/jr=/, altho the [j] part may be *phonetically* realized as
palatization.
> Other consonants like t and d are palletized in British English who say
> for tune and dune /tjun/ and /djun/ rather than /tu:n/ /du:n/.
/tju/ and /dju/ exist in some American dialects, too. I say /tjuzdej/
for example. I don't think I have /dju/, tho.
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