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Re: Trigger Systems (was Re: Book on constructive linguistics)

From:Christopher Bates <chris.maths_student@...>
Date:Thursday, October 5, 2006, 11:22
> > As you may recall from past discussions, this is pretty much my view. Or > call them "focus systems" -- after all, the English (or other) passive is > simply a way of shifting focus from Agent/etc. to Patient, and Philippine > langs. merely go several steps further, being able to "passivize" many of > the constituents in a sentence (as you do in your English examples)-- >
There are interesting discussions of this in: 1) Grammatical Voice by Klaiman 2) Subject and Topic edited by Li and Thompson In (1) Klaiman argues that there is a difference between voice whose primary function (or one of whose primary functions) is argument rearrangement (derived voice) and voice whose primary function is marking of pragmatic roles (pragmatic voice). There are languages which have voice operations marked on the verb that mark pragmatics but do not really alter the argument structure of the verb, although I think finding a language with derived voice that doesn't ALSO have a pragmatic function may be more difficult. In any case, Klaiman argues that the Tagalog trigger system is a pragmatic voice system, and thus implicitly argues that it marks pragmatic notions but is NOT primarily argument rearranging. This is supported by a paper in (2) which examines the function of the trigger in Tagalog, and whether the trigger is the subject of the clause. The paper concluded that there are some typical subject properties associated with triggers and some typical subject properties always associated with the normal (A/S) subject. Thus by the normal defining criteria of subject either: (i) Tagalog has no true subject role (the subject criteria converging on one NP ONLY when the trigger is also the A/S argument) or (ii) Tagalog has two semi-subject roles that share typical subject properties between them I'm afraid that I don't own (2), so I can't offhand recall all the details, but you should be able to order it from your library if you're interested.
> I often suspect it's simply a terminological dispute-- Passives, Focus, > Trigger-- sama-sama. Use of the "trigger" term in AN/Philippine linguistics > is of rather recent origin, I think, and not widely used. >
I think the reason for adopting such an approach is because the term "voice" is still biased towards the voice typically found in European languages, that is derived voice.

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