Re: Test for middle voice?

Quoting Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>:

> Hi!
>
> R A Brown <ray@...> writes:
> > Mark J. Reed wrote:
> >...
> > > Yes, but I believe Ray's point was that it is not syntactically
> > > distinguished.  The "middle voice" verbs you cite are
> > > indistinguishable in form from their active counterparts.
> >
> > Absolutely - spot on!
>
> Oops.
>
> My problem might be than AFAIK German has no good word for 'voice'.  I
> always use 'Diathese' in German for English 'voice'.  That might even
> be wrong, since most of the time I do linguistics in English, but
> anyway, it seems to have blinded me.
Looking in a Swedish lexicon, it seems _diates_ covers both voice and diathesis.
It may be the same in German.

The way to distingish is apparently to speak of _morfologisk diates_ vs
_semantisk diates_.

                                           Andreas