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Re: another language reconstruction question

From:Florian Rivoal <florian@...>
Date:Thursday, October 31, 2002, 10:53
 Your answers makes it more clear. Yet a couple of questions remains. How can
the case of english in USA, or latin in western europe be similar to PIE? Those
two are conveyed by One single civilisation or empire. the whole area is
influence by one culture. Was there such a Proto-indo-european empire reigning
over an area as vast as the whole indo european area? I think it is hard to
believe without a writing system or a more or less advanced technology, which
is important for maintaining coherence on such a big area for a long time. I do
not doubt some comunities had the colonial and dominating style at that time
to, i just think their influence was restricted to smaller areas.

 If the langage did not have the support of such a big civilisation how could
it manage to replace allmost everything around? And it seems that if it is just
spreading around, without any control, by the time it reaches areas quite
distant from the original location, there could hardly be anything left from
the original language.
And how can there be only one "winner" on such a wide area? Wouldn't it be more
reasonable to think that this reconstructed root comes from one
proto-indo-european language, and that other comes from a distinc language,
potentialy non related?

 As for the number of language in the early world, i agree partly with what you
say. Now adays, the world's population is around 6 bilions, with more or less
(i believe) 3000 languages. that is an average 2 milion speakers per language.
and if you consider only the "major" languages that are likely to survive in
the future, the you get an much higher average number of speakers.

 At the time when the world only had, let's say 10 milion inhabitant, it was a
rather prehistoric world. the prehistoric civilisation nowadays have around 1
language for thousand people. So that still makes 10 thousands languages. This
is purely hipotethic, and rather simply calculated, but i think i gives a routh
idea. I guess you have to get back much farther in time to find a moment when
the number of languages decreases. I am not even sure this time exist, because
there is no way to know at when people started to talk, and how wide spread
mankind was at this time.

 Just as a final word, i want to make one thing clear. I am not stating that i
am right and every body else in the world is wrong. I am just giving my view so
other can comment on it and tell me where i got wrong. And i hope not every
thing is wrong ;)

florian

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