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Re: OT: CXS chart and machine-readable Unicode->CXS mappings

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 23:34
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:52:02PM +0100, Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> En réponse à Joe : > > > >Firefox(for Linux) is around 7MB.
Opera is 5MB.
> As Teoh explained already, to get it to only half the functionality of > Opera (and don't think the additional functionality of Opera is > unnecessary. I just *cannot* browse without mouse gestures anymore, and > even tend to try and use them in environments where they don't exist ;)) ),
Yep, sometimes I get angry at IE because mouse gestures don't work. :-P
> you need to add extensions that add up rapidly to a few tens of MB. Compare > that with the 3.5MB Opera takes (on Linux, 4.5MB if you choose the version > statically linked to QT), and then Opera contains a mail client too! (not > that I use Opera M2, nor do I find it necessary, but it tells you how much > smaller Opera would be if it was only a browser! :) ) > > So Opera still wins in this matter.
Which is why I actually went and *bought* the ad-free version of it. I was so impressed by the lightweight yet high-quality app that Opera is, that I felt I should financially contribute to the developers to continue working on it. [snip]
> >I'd like to recommend it. > > I think it's a good recommendation, although the only advantage I see > Firefox has over Opera is that it's Open Source and free (i.e. gratis).
Yes, in an ideal world, Opera is GPL'd. :-)
> I'm stuck with Opera's ad-banner because I can't purchase by Internet > (not that I mind it, I don't even see it :)) ), and being closed source > we're at the mercy of the whims of the company producing it. But so far > they have played fair and made a great job, so I don't mind that much. > Opera obeys all the W3C standards better than any other browser around > after all :)) .
And yet some misguided IE aficiandos(sp?) complains that Opera's rendering is "odd" or "ugly". Yet another reason to hate IE's gratuitous deliberate incompatibility with everything else, as is typical of Micro$oft.
> Still, I'd be happy if someday they would make Opera Open Source (I'm > sure many people would love to see Opera's rendering engine and how it > does its wonders in so little place :)) ), if possible under the GPL :) > .
[snip] Somehow I don't think this will ever happen. But of course, nothing stops us from wishing for it. :-P But on the flip side, I'm not so sure if you'd *want* to see the source code... I have this nagging feeling that it's not as pretty as one might imagine. T -- He who sacrifices functionality for ease of use, loses both and deserves neither. -- Slashdotter

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