Rhotics in rtemmu
From: | Dan Sulani <dnsulani@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, November 29, 2000, 15:04 |
On 26 Nov, in reply to BP Jonsson's question about
conlang rhotics, I wrote:
My conlang, rtemmu, also has both /r/ (written r) and /R/ (written r`).
Sometimes they are both found in the same word; for example:
"r`koris" (= everywhere), or " werbr`" (= which).
Now, after following the thread about (German) uvular trills, I see
that they are being referred to as [R]. I was a little confused until
I went back to the IPA website at cs.brown.edu and checked. In rtemmu,
the r` is supposed to be a rhotic mid-central vowel or,
"right-hook shwa", _not_ a uvular trill. (Although, were I to make dialects
in rtemmu, it might be interesting to have a dialect with both alveolar and
uvular
trills.)
[Question: Historically, could a parent lang with both kinds of trills
develop into
a lang with one trill and a rhotic vowel?]
Anyhow, in my posting from 26 Nov, I should have emphasized that
/R/ was in Kirshenbaum notation. And the reason for that is that,
according to what I see on the IPA website at cs.brown.edu,
none of the other systems has an ASCII symbol to represent
the rhotic mid-central vowel. (And I guess that I also really should have
written
/r<trl>/ for the alveolar trill, just to be consistant.)
It seems strange that only Kirshenbaum represents that sound.
Do any of the other systems in fact have a representation for it?
Dan Sulani
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