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Re: OT: Non-Human Phonology

From:Rob Haden <magwich78@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 0:11
On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:36:46 -0500, Herman Miller <hmiller@...> wrote:

>The sound-producing organ in birds (the syrinx) has two separate sources >of sound; some birds are able to control these independently. So in >addition to controlling pitch and duration, you might have a distinction >between single and double sounds. Some birds also have a certain amount >of control over timbre.
Yes, that's correct. It might be interesting if the anthroposaurs could control them independently. Having phonemic variations in timbre would be interesting too. That way, their speech would have something similar to human vowels. :)
>On the other hand, most of the versatility of bird sounds is in the >songbirds (oscines), which would have evolved long after birds split >from (the rest of the) dinosaurs. So you probably should look at the >sounds made by non-passerine birds like ostriches, turkeys, geese, and >so on. There's still quite a variety of sounds. I have a page of links >to animal sounds which hasn't been updated in a while, but some of the >sites I linked to might still be around. > >http://www.io.com/~hmiller/animals/sound-sites.html > >You could also check out the "Crocodile Communication" link. Other than >birds, crocodilians are the closest thing to dinosaurs that have >recordings of their sounds available. > >http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/herpetology/brittoncrocs/croccomm.html >=========================================================================
Thanks! I'll definitely look into those. While it's true that the songbirds' capabilities evolved after the demise of the dinosaurs, I don't see why the anthroposaurs couldn't have evolved similar capabilities as a result of convergent evolution. After all, our closest relatives have nowhere near the speech capabilities that we do! - Rob