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Re: OFF-TOPIC: Non linguistics books by Chomsky

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Sunday, May 23, 2004, 6:50
From:    Jeff Jones <jeffsjones@...>
> This is really the last straw! You and Tom and Ray etc. don't get it, do > you? Could all the idiots who keep trying to politicize this board, > academic politics or any other kind, FUCK OFF !!! > > No Cross, No Crown, No Puke Green Star!
It is my understanding (and the Lord of Instrumentality, John, can confirm or deny this), that this list has a more or less official policy of tolerance towards all manner of debate about all manner of subjects, even when they are wildly irrelevant to the discussion of constructed languages. IME the only subject matter that has traditionally been held off-limits is the politicking surrounding artificial languages as frequently goes on in the Auxlang list, and AFAIK since that list split off we have never had extended problems with this. Also, I think it is worth pointing out that what John and I were discussing (very politely, I thought) was the larger question of what role Chomsky has had as a linguist and as an intellectual. I would think this is quite relevant to discussion of the linguistics of conlanging, because so many of the claims about what a natural human language is are couched precisely in Chomskyan terms (like pro-drop, theta-roles, movement, null categories, etc.). If these theoretical positions are being promoted for less than purely scientifically motivated reasons, then we might want to have alternative analyses and thus alternative structures in our own conlangs. Perhaps I missed some post, or failed to understand some claim, but I did not see anything resembling ideological bigotry that would motivate your comment. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637

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