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Re: New Language: Ano~'him (ACTUAL) Vair long

From:bob thornton <arcanesock@...>
Date:Thursday, October 14, 2004, 0:16
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> The tones are high, mid, low, rising, and falling. > > Phonotactics: > > Tone indicates what I call 'mood' on verbs and case on nouns.
>Cool. I almost did something like this in Ebisédian, although it
turned out to have vowel contour instead of tone contour to go along with case marking. Vowel contour? I do not understand. I am still a noobie here. <Snip>
>Very interesting system. By 'ideas' I presume you mean abstract nouns?
Yes, that. [...]
> There are only pronouns for first and second person. For third > person pronouns, one uses demonstratives.
>Cool. I may adapt this idea for Tatari Faran, which doesn't yet have
3rd person pronouns. :-) I, personally, stole it from Latin. But you didn't read that, now did you? ^_^ [...]
> Cases are determined by tone: > > mid = nom, high = voc, low = acc, rising = dat, falling = inst. > > Others are indicated by the tone and the voicing of the consonant > > mid, voiced = gen, high voiced = ben, low voiced = com
>Interesting. If I were you, though, I'd put in additional contrasting
features to distinguish between cases. Good idea. It's that regularity thing creeping into my brain.
> Demonstratives have a two way distance distinction, and they express > speaker listener orientation, and gender distinction. Vowels > indicate gender. To pluralize, voice the last consonant. > > Near speaker sg - |rh-t| /r-t/ > Far from speaker sg - |r-t| /4-t/ > Near listener sg - |l-t| /l-t/ > Far from listener sg - |lh-t| /L-t/ > Near both sg - |w-t| /P-t/ > Far from both - |wh-t| /j-t/
>Hmm. Voicing the last consonant gives final /d/ vs. final /t/. That
seems to be a pretty difficult distinction to pronounce, IME, esp. if you have no audible release after the consonant. (I know this 'cos some Ebisédian pronouns have this problem in the nullar, which made me give them irregular forms.) Eh, not a good thing, that. Perhaps I should transform them into a voiced dental fricative? Hee, I love the word 'fricative'. Herm. Right.
> Now, onto verbs. There are only three verbs: To be, to do, and to > go. There are five base tenses: Far past, near past, present, near > future, and far future. They are suffixed onto the verb.
>Interesting. So if you wanted say "he builds the table" you'll have to
say "he does the building of the table"? How I had invisioned it was "He do build the table" or the like. But less pidgin sounding. [...]
> There are also 'complicated' tenses: constant, finished action, > gerund, abiliative (can do) desirative (want to), imperative (have > to) and infinitive. They are suffixed onto the verb.
>Nice. I think I should have this in Tatari Faran, instead of using
auxiliaries like English. I always like langs that do that. Auxiliaries bother me. [...]
> The four moods are statement, interrogative, command, and refutive. > These are represented by tones. High tone is statement, low tone is > interrogative, rising tone is command, falling is refutative.
>Refutative?
For lack of a better term. It's a negative reply to a question. I know that's rather unwieldly, but I like it. [...]
> Any opinions? Likey? Dislikey? I apologize for the regularity, but > Ano~'him is just beginning.
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>Sounds like a very interesting conlang. If I understood you right,
there are only 3 verbs in the language, and to form other verbs you compound them with, say, a gerund or something? I like this minimal verb idea. :-) With minimal verbs, one can get much more creative with their nouns. ^_^ -The Sock --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

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