Re: Passover/Easter (was: Italogallic in Zera,and other languages.)

BP Jonsson wrote:

> At 10:47 28.4.2000 +0100, yl-ruil wrote:
>
> >Christ, only begotten son of the LORD God was actually a pagan himself.
>
> True only if _pagan_ means "traditional ethnic religion", since in that
> case Judaism can (perhaps with some stretching) fit into that definition,
> as would Hinduism and Shinto.  The question is whether you can go with it,
> or the Jewish people following this thread (if any are left)?  This
> Buddhist uses _pagan_ in that sense, as opposed to _revealed religion_,
and
> IMO Judaism and Mazdaism (aka Zoroastrianism) are border cases: they are
> based on revelation, but also preserve quite strong ethnic ties.  I guess
> the same could be said of some strands of Hinduism, BTW.  The phenomena
> lumped together as "Hinduism" are actually very diverse, formal
recognition
> of the sanctity of the four Vedas being the sole criterion.
Well, actually, it's a rather tenuous (but linguistic) argument I read
somewhere and presented to my old parish priest when he enquired about my
"apostacy". It all rests on what Jesus said on the cross, in Aramaic: eli
(or eloi), eli, lama sabachthani, translated as "my god, my god, why hast
thou forsaken me?". The "why hast thou forsaken me?" bit isn't relavent to
the argument; but eli/eloi is.

"My god" isn't *eli/eloi*, but *ilahi* in Aramaic IIRC. Funny how the only
bit that they got wrong in the Aramaic quotations in the New Testament was
"my god". Whatever Jesus was shouting at, it wasn't "my god". The source I
found this in (I think it was "The Templar Revalation" also stated quite
confidently that eli was the Greek vocative of Helios, so Jesus was shouting
at the sun-god. Eli doesn't look like the Greek acusative of anything much
to me, but then I don't speak Greek).

<trying not to cause any more offense> Note that I didn't say I agreed with
this. 2000 years is a long time for things to get mixed up.

Dan