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Re: CHAT kermis (was: question - Turco-Japanese)

From:caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 24, 2004, 14:40
Ray Brown wrote:

>Obviously the second part of the word has been reformed under the >influence of French _messe_ (mass) - it may be this is what >Charlie's dictionary was referring to. But it should not have said >that _kermis_ was from french. That is incorrect.
AHD does not say that. That was my original supposition. AHD traces it directly to Dutch.
>What slightly puzzles me is why the Mexicans in Charlie's parish
should then have reverted to the original Dutch spelling. Maybe some
>one's Spanish-English dictionary said that the English for
>was 'kermis'
They didn't revert. They use kermés. I used kermis in speaking to my American parishioners & for use in the newspaper ad. AHD also gives kermess & kirmess. Thanks for the much more detailed history of the word. Charlie