Re: CHAT: Being taken for a furriner ...

 --- "J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...> schrieb:

> >Anyways, she made that remark after laughing at my
> >saying something like "Draussen ist sehr heiß ,
> >nicht?" ("It's very hot out, isn't it?"). I'm
> pretty
> >sure she was laughing at me using 'nicht' to mark
> tag
> >questions. Tell me, are tag questions particularly
> >Bavarian?
>
> Not at all! It's common to tag-question with "nicht"
> (the "t" usually
> dropped which doesn't occur in other words ending on
> "cht").
You mean /Macht/ drops the [t], or is this true only
in cases where the [x] is palatalized to [C]? Or is
this only the case with /nicht/, pronounced as [nIC]?

> There's even a
> kind of tag particle in Southern German, "gell",
> which is originally a verb
> form related to "gelten", which can still be seen by
> the use of it's plural
> form in southwestern dialect: "gellet", which is
> used when adressing groups
> or as honorific (either third or second person
> plural).
Cool, "gell". Have to remember that.

But I had a strong feeling my usage of 'nicht' as a
modal particle was correct, since I've heard it before
many times (and this is confirmed by my big honkin'
German reference grammar).

> >He used articles with proper names, which I find
> >awesomely cool, if a bit comical. I'd use them
> myself,
> >if I felt brave enough.
>
> In German, that is? It's considered to be a southern
> regionalism, and maybe
> northern speakers consider it to be vulgar.
Well, I use them in English just to be facetious (ex.
"How's the Christina doing?" for "How are you,
Christina?"). I never use it in German, since I'm
_very_ self-conscious about my usage; I usually err on
the side of hyper-correctness to be safe, though
recently, I've become comfortable using 'nonstandard'
(i.e., usually not found in textbooks) contractions,
like /'ne/ for /eine/.

> g_0ry@_ˆs:
> j. 'mach' wust
[gRy:s]
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