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From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 22, 2006, 4:04
On 3/21/06, Tristan Alexander McLeay <conlang@...> wrote:
> Sorry, you've misunderstood me. A vocalised consonant isn't the same > as a syllabic consonant. A syllabic consonant is when a consonant acts > as a syllabic nucleus such, like [l=]. A vocalised consonant is when a > consonant is out-right replaced by an (often non-syllabic) vowel.
OK, got it. Except . . . "non-syllabic vowel"? Isn't that something like "bright darkness"??
> > [M] is the Japanese /u/... > > Japanese /u/ has a different sort of liprounding to normal [u], but it
Yes? Do go on. :)
> Yuppers! Many Australian Aboriginal languages distinguish between all > three of dental, alveolar and postalveolar POAs (as stops), and most > of them also don't have any fricatives---at all. The three series are > redundantly distinguished the part of the tongue that touches the roof > tho: the dental are laminal, the alveolar are apical and the > postalveolar are retroflex.
Friggin' Aborigines, screwing up a system that's perfectly adequate for everyone else. Poof! Diacriticitis. :)
> > [G] is one place I prefer the CXS to real IPA. The IPA versions of > > [7] and [G] are far too similar for my taste, especially in > > handwritten notes. > > I agree, though in handwritten notes I find 6 and @ a *lot* harder to > distinguish.
@ or @\? 6 and @ are backwards and upside down relative to each other, while @\ looks summat like a 6 flipped horizontally... -- Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>


Tristan Alexander McLeay <conlang@...>
Chris Bates <chris.maths_student@...>