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Re: Sirmave part I: phonology

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 23:39
En réponse à Mangiat <mangiat@...>:

> > Vowels: > > There are 15 vowel sounds (6 simple vowels + 5 allophones and 5 nasal > vowels); native linguists still don't agree whether nasal vowels are > independent phonemes or allophones of normal vowels appearing before the > phoneme [n] + another consonant. (Could *you* help me to grasp this > problem?) >
Well, in French nasal vowels were originally allophones of oral vowels before nasal consonnants /n/ or /m/. Now the nasals that provoked this nasalisation disappeared (except in writing) and sequences vowel+nasal don't trigger a nasalisation of the vowel anymore, so I don't think you can call the French nasals allophones of the oral vowels. The vowel in bon /bO~/ is really different from the vowel in bonne /bOn/. So maybe the phenomenon in Sirmave is the same as in French... Christophe.