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Re: USAGE: Classification questions

From:Christopher Wright <faceloran@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 18:18
Mark Reed palsalge
>This is really about linguistics more than usage, but I'm curious >about classification of languages in edge cases. I apologize for >showing my ignorance, but I'm sure someone on here can help clear >things up. :)
No problem with showing ignorance. Once you do, it tends to go away and have a sulk for a while. Unless you're me, of course, in which case it remains. 8-|
>For instance, the Romance languages are SVO if the object is a noun, >SOV if the object is a pronoun. Which order is considered the >fundamental one?
I'd say that the fundamental order is SVO, with SOV being a relic of Latin.
>It also seems that there's a very fine line between agglutination and >inflection, since many inflections can be analyzed as > > (root + original suffix) - original suffix + new suffix > >And often the suffix is universally applicable to other roots. >For instance, in Latin the verb suffix -o means "first person >present indicative". You can argue that it's not agglutination >because the -o isn't further analyzable into a piece that means >"first person", one that means "present", and one that means >"indicative". But then what about the Klingon verb prefixes, >which each convey the person and number of both the subject and the >direct object but are not analyzable into subject and object pieces? >What makes Klingon verb conjugation agglutinative while Latin is >inflected?
I'm not familiar with Klingon, but many of the uninitiated make no distinction between agglutinating and inflecting. Looking at a Klingon grammar sketch (one that seems unsure of itself), it has a few agglutinating features such as compounding verb with indirect object pronoun.
>Can someone help me see the light?
Oh, sure, a luminescent bias. It's the "differently dark"! ~Wright

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