Re: USAGE: Classification questions
From: | Christopher Wright <faceloran@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 18:18 |
Mark Reed palsalge
>This is really about linguistics more than usage, but I'm curious
>about classification of languages in edge cases. I apologize for
>showing my ignorance, but I'm sure someone on here can help clear
>things up. :)
No problem with showing ignorance. Once you do, it tends to go away and
have a sulk for a while. Unless you're me, of course, in which case it
remains. 8-|
>For instance, the Romance languages are SVO if the object is a noun,
>SOV if the object is a pronoun. Which order is considered the
>fundamental one?
I'd say that the fundamental order is SVO, with SOV being a relic of Latin.
>It also seems that there's a very fine line between agglutination and
>inflection, since many inflections can be analyzed as
>
> (root + original suffix) - original suffix + new suffix
>
>And often the suffix is universally applicable to other roots.
>For instance, in Latin the verb suffix -o means "first person
>present indicative". You can argue that it's not agglutination
>because the -o isn't further analyzable into a piece that means
>"first person", one that means "present", and one that means
>"indicative". But then what about the Klingon verb prefixes,
>which each convey the person and number of both the subject and the
>direct object but are not analyzable into subject and object pieces?
>What makes Klingon verb conjugation agglutinative while Latin is
>inflected?
I'm not familiar with Klingon, but many of the uninitiated make no
distinction between agglutinating and inflecting. Looking at a Klingon
grammar sketch (one that seems unsure of itself), it has a few
agglutinating features such as compounding verb with indirect object
pronoun.
>Can someone help me see the light?
Oh, sure, a luminescent bias. It's the "differently dark"!
~Wright
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