GOODBYE (was: Auxlang Advocacy (was: Li Lingue Modern))

After reading Bob Petry's latest invective, I thought: "What the heck! I
left AUXLANG to escape this sort of nonsense.  I can do without it again.
I'm quitting & keeping all my conlanging to _moderated_ lists."

Then I read James E. Hopkins & cheered up.

At 8:13 am -0500 1/11/98, list James E. Hopkins wrote:
>A PS to my previous message:
>
>I believe that we CAN discuss auxlangs as Constructed Languages WITHOUT the
>question of advocacy coming up. I feel that auxlangs are a good source of
>information about what other (and older) projects have done and how they did
>it.
>
>I can certainly tell you all about the beauty and utility of my make and model
>car without having to try to convince you to buy one.
>
>The auxlang as projects worthy of study I support, why not leave the Language
>Crusades to another list?
>
Certainly I believe we OUGHT to be able to discuss conIALs as conlangs
without the question of advocacy.  Unfortunately if I dare make any
observation about two conIALs, it's assumed I'm either attacking them or
their advocate.  Sorry - I can do without such paranoia.

I agree that conIALs as _projects_ are worthy of study & that Crusades
belong to another list.  I've said that time & time again.  Alas, Crusaders
will get in wherever they can.

But after reading Lojbab's reply, I despair again.  I have no problem with
Auxlangers figting it out on Auxlang if _they_ wish to; but it's not for
me.  I really did think Auxlang had been set up for that purpose.  Ah well,
I'm mistaken again.

We have a guy who has openly said on this list that he has not constructed
any language & never intends to; as far as I can see his only purpose here
is to promote his two chosen conIALs.  To me this seems an abuse of the
Conlang list.  But, I guess, I'm mistaken again.

Sorry - I have pressure enough from work.  I want to turn to conlanging as
enjoyable _relaxation_ from such pressure.

Having removed myself from one list because I was tired of having my
arguments repeatedly misrepresented & all discussion conducted at a
personal level, I certainly have no wish for a repeat performance here.

Sadly, I've come to the conclusion that one can guarantee reasoned
discussion on conlanging only on moderated lists.  So I bid all good-bye.

Ray.