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Re: EXERCISE: Meanings of to be

From:Sylvia Sotomayor <kelen@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 2, 2002, 20:23
On Tuesday 02 July 2002 12:30, Jake X wrote:
> I recently dealt with eradicating "to be" from elanagauo, replacing > it with one of two > different words depending on context. My choice was to use one verb > for existance and one > for equivalence. But there are more meanings, and different ways to > split it. For those of you > who don't stick to the natlang definition, what do you use? I made > a short exercise. > > 1. forming predicate nominative: He IS happy
la, pa, ñi, se
> 2. equivalence: Today is Wednesday. > 3. existance: To be, or not to be.
la
> 4. English use, for creating verb forms: He is walking.
doesn't happen. no verbs.
> 5. Numerical equivalence: One plus one is two.
la é án é án jé énne; be-equiv & one & one exchanges-for two
> Do you differenciate?
Yep. la essentially denotes both existence and equivalence. You can say "he is happy" with la by saying 'la sáen mánte' "he = happy-person". pa denotes a whole and a part, so "he is happy" can be 'pa sáen anánte' "be he-whole happiness-part" or even 'pa anánte ma' "be happiness-whole he-part". With ñi and se, you imply that someone or something is making him happy, as in 'ñeme mánte' "null-made-him happy-person" or 'seme anánte' "null-to-him happiness" When would you use which? you ask. la sáen mánte is sort of a default, he's a happy kind of guy statement pa sáen anánte means he's happy right now, but that may or may not be a usual state. pa anánte ma means happiness possesses him, probably because something wonderful happened, but who knows. Oh, and ma is just a reduced form of sáen, and not a specific form denoting a part. Full forms always appear immediately after the relational/copula/whatever, reduced forms can appear anywhere else. ñeme mánte would be appropriate immediately after a marriage proposal or a job offer, or something else offered by someone. seme anánte would be appropriate after some event that went well, like finding a dollar coin on the sidewalk. Yes, the differences are sometimes subtle. -- Sylvia Sotomayor sylvia1@ix.netcom.com The Kélen language can be found at: http://home.netcom.com/~sylvia1/Kelen/kelen.html This post may contain the following characters: á (a-acute); é (e-acute); í (i-acute); ó (o-acute); ú (u-acute); ñ (n-tilde);