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Re: Spelling pronunciations (was: rhotic miscellany)

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 15:32
Muke Tever wrote:
> >I think that's _most_ American dialects. Er, what vowel do your people > >put in it?
"My people call it maize." Sorry, just found the "your people" bit amusing. :) Tristan Mc Leay replied:
> Short o (i.e. /O/); 'what' rhymes with 'cot' and 'lot', but not with > 'hut' (/a/, equiv. to /V/) or 'bought' (/o:/).
Hence the dialect-spelling "eh, wot?" which was popular for stereotypical British characters in fiction a generation or two ago.
> In general---a letter that denotes /w/ plus a letter that denotes a > short a has the letter that denotes a short a pronounced with a short o.
Except here we run into terminology difficulties. To me, "short a" means /&/, which is certainly not the vowel in "wash" or any of the other example words. The options besides /O/ seem to be /a/ and /A/, neither of which is a "short a" in my book. Nor are they "long"; the terminology I was taught in grade school runs like this (phonetic symbols for phonemes are approximate as always): Vowel Short Long Other Examples A /&/ /ej/ /a/ tack, take, taco E /E/ /i/ kept, keep I /I/ /aj/ kit, kite O /A/ /o/ /O/ cot, coat, caught U /V/ /ju/ /r\=/ but, butte, burr OO /U/ /u/ book, boon In the dictionary pronunciation key notation we used, short vowels were marked with a breve, the long ones with a macron, and the "other" ones by a circumflex. An alternative to casting OO as a separate vowel was to use u with an umlaut for /u/ and u with a dot above for /U/. Sometimes the /a/ sound is written as a with an umlaut, while a with circumflex is used for /E`/ in hair, care, etc. And sometimes /r\=/ was a circumflexed i instead of u, or indicated with an upside down r after a schwa. I always thought there were more symbols than sounds; neither I nor any of my teachers had any distinction among /a/, /A/, and /O/, for instance. -Marcos

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Tristan Mc Leay <conlang@...>