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Re: proposed conlang database & my classification

From:Clint Jackson Baker <litrex1@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 19, 2002, 13:16
What about being able to have multiple labels, eg I
consider Kayasanoda to be both personal and
experimental.  I would hope there would be that kind
of flexibility--maybe I've just misread you.

Clint


--- Garrett Jones <alkaline@...> wrote:
> http://conlang.alkaline.org > > changes: > 1. I bulleted the design motivation list - > reorganized the artistic list, > added the 'naming language' category. I want to try > to get most languages to > fit into one of the sub-categories. Are there any > other subcategories under > these four that i didn't list, that languages fit > into? > > personal > -secret language > -other > > artistic > -sci-fi/fantasy human > -alien > -historical > -naming language > -other > > auxiliary > -international > -reform > -simplified language > -other > > experimental > -logical > -hypothetical > -other > > 2. I created a new section called "Con-world > information". It has two > subsections: number of fictional users, and > fictional world location. Of > course this information wouldn't apply to auxlangs > at all. > > 3. Combined "syntax" and "morphology" in to a > "grammar" section: > > Grammar > -phonology: number of sounds > -morphology: isolationism vs agglutination > -syntax: word order (SVO, SOV, etc) > -syntax: number of cases used (nominative, > accusative, ergative, etc) > -syntax: number of tenses (past, present, future) > > this section is basically a good show for how > complicated/simple a > particular language is. An easy to pronounce > language generally has less > sounds than a harder one. > > 4. I completely reworked the whole vocab source > section. I recognized that > two things were being classified with one system: > the source of the words, > and the way the words were derived from their > source. Thus, i created two > categories: Vocab Source and Vocab Generation > Method. I took your vocab > source categorization scheme and reworked it... Now > we have yet a third > method :) The difference is that in my method *only* > the language source is > specified, nothing else. Conlangs derived from > specific languages would > specify a specific category, such as 1.1.2.1 > (English). Languages derived > from multiple languages in a family, or from the > proto-form of the family, > would specify a more general category, like 1.1.1 > (Romance-based). For the > whole list, see the page. > > Here is how the vocab derivation method system > works: > > a posteriori > -simplification > -phonological modification > -spelling reform > -natural evolution (descendent) > -blend (multiple language sources) > -unaltered (grammar modifications only) > > a priori > -categorical generation > -random generation > > So, esperanto would be a blend, and Ido would be an > 'unaltered'. Fictional > languages like Klingon and Quenya would be a priori, > random generation. > Also, in the language classification section, i made > these categories > available to be specified: > -primary vocabulary source > -primary vocabulary derivation method > -secondary vocabulary source > -secondary vocabulary derivation method > > so, if a language is mixed a priori/a posteriori, > the two biggest > contributors can be named. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Constructed Languages List > [mailto:CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jan van Steenbergen > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:28 AM > To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU > Subject: Re: proposed conlang database & my > classification > > [SNIP] > >Apologizing for being so boring, > >Jan > > I would have to apologize also if you did :P > ------ > > http://conlang.alkaline.org
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