Re: Half-Voiced Stops (was: Rotokas)

Andreas Johansson wrote:

>Quoting Emily Zilch <emily0@...>:
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>>{ 20040617,1426 | Mark "-- Mark" P. Line } "Is the second phoneme in
>>English "skip" a /k/ or a /g/? And does this question have a general
>>answer for all native speakers?"
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>>This leads to the observation that some descriptions of Beijing
>>Standard Mandarin have "half-voicing" marked for the unaspirated series
>>- this is indicated with [ b ] etc. with circles beneath. I speak
>>Mandarin and I'm not sure whether this is a valid analysis - it's as
>>ambiguous to me as the "skip" example Mark mentions.
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>>Does anyone know if other R/L languages have these?
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>Well, Swedish have the very same issue with 'sp', 'st', 'sk'.
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>My personal belief is that the phonematication varies from speaker to speaker.
>This is based on the observation that some kids learning to write tend to
>misspell them as 'sb', 'sd', 'sg', but others do not.
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There's a particular metathesised pronunciation of 'spaghetti' as
'basketti' which is no doubt an example of _something_, too..

--
Tristan.

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