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Re: Russian names (was: Re: A perfect day...)

From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, February 4, 2000, 12:53
At 14:08 +1300 4.2.2000, andrew wrote:
> >> But, speaking of these forms, I've noticed that many of the languages >> have similar 2nd plural forms, for instance, Latin _vos_, Russian _vy_, >> but then we have Anglo-Saxon _ge_, seemingly unrelated. The first >> person plurals also seem unrelated, _nos_ vs. _we_. Is this connected >> with the PIE dual/plural distinction, i.e., some descendants used the >> dual and others the plural? >> >I think the nominative form of the 1st person plural was *we and the >oblique was *nsos. The oblique forms survive in Germanic 1st plural >object and possessive pronouns. > >The rise of the 2nd plural forms in daughter languages I'm not so sure >of now.
The Germanic and Baltic 2nd plurals in *ju-/*i- are probably cognate to the demonstrative stem *i-/*jo- found in "yon(der)" and in the relative pronoun of Sanskrit (yad) and Greek (hos). Sanskrit distinguishes accented forms in va- and yu- from enclitic nas/vas. /BP B.Philip Jonsson <mailto: bpj@...> <mailto: melroch@...> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ Anant' avanaute quettalmar! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ___ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ I neer Pityancalimeo\ \_____/ /ar/ /_atar Mercasso naan ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)