Re: CHAT: ConScripts

On Aug 5, 2007, at 6:55 AM, Michael Poxon wrote:

> I think a case could be made that, in normal English speech, what
> is being produced here is not the phoneme cluster /ftsm/ but
> instead /fcm/ even though /c/ is not an accepted phoneme of the
> language, only occuring in "Correct" pronunciations of foreign
> words that do possess this phoneme such as "Mozart" or "Zeitgeist"
> - so you only need to assimilate /c/ to two neighbouring phonemes.
> Be fun if /c/ became a new phoneme of English!
> Mike
>>>
>>> I'm sure that's meant as a generalization, but just to set the
>>> record straight, I always pronounce the /t/ in "crafts" and in
>>> "craftsman" no matter how rapidly I'm speaking.  I just can't
>>> imagine saying "crafs."
>>
I'm not sure I follow. I get that you are using the symbol /c/ for
the voiceless alveolar affricate, but I don't understand why you
posit considering it a phoneme. Not to mention assimilating it to the
two neighboring phonemes.