Re: "I'm after ..." (Re: Maybe Spam? "Sorunsuz Yathamanýn Kefyi .. .")
|From:||Keith Gaughan <kmgaughan@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 13:50|
John Cowan wrote:
> Keith Gaughan scripsit:
>>>>Well, there's one glaring one that shows that I'm from around the
>>>>border, and that is the use of the tag statement "so X
>>>>do/am/will/have/would/etc.". You should be more than familar with
>>>>that one from Father Ted. For shame, and you having lived there too!
>>>Ah, you see, I didn't count that - I use it too.
>>You might have picked that up while you were living here. Everybody
>>seems to, and I have to resist the urge to write and say it while I'm
>>in Cork because people keep on picking up on it and slagging me about
> Hmm. I take it that what's dialectal about this is the tag use?
> I have no trouble with:
> My mother told me to always brush my teeth, and so I do.
> (where "so" = "therefore"), or with
> My mother told me if I didn't brush my teeth they'd rot,
> so I do.
> (where "so" = "consequently"), or even with
> A: It would help if you'd give less juvenile examples.
> B: So I will!
> (where "so"'s force is not clear to me).
> But none of these have the characteristic flat (in AmE) intonation
> of a tag.
Nope, that's a valid usage universally in English. The dialectical usage
I'm talking about is used as follows:
1. I'm a software developer, so I am.
2. I'll be off to Micromail to pick up that book, so I will.
3. I've finished upgrading the backend to UDI, so I have.
It's more for emphasis, though it's used a bit to much to have quite
that much force.
>>Nope, actual dialectical feature, just like using "cat" for "awful" and
>>"tae" for "tea".
> All Ireland said /te/ for "tea" until the end of the 19th century or
> even later, which is why it's a feature of Stage Irish; it's probably
> reinforced in your area by Ulster Scots, though.
True. But then, Ulster Scots isn't a real language. <ducks> ;-D
But seriously, Ulster Scots isn't spoken anywhere near where I'm from.
It's move of an east NI thing than west.
>> Ok, I'll explain. That's the point: nobody lives there. The whole county
>> has about half the population per km of Sligo--16/km vs. 32/km. Kerry
>> gets slagged because because they're--or so it goes--born idiots, just
>> like Belgium and Austria get slagged in France and Germany. Tipperary
>> gets slagged because of the accent. And Dublin gets slagged because it's
>> full of Jackeens.
> Huh, you call those explanations? Capital cities are always despised
> by the hinterland, and the only reason people don't slag Cork is because
> they're afraid to come up against the local penchant for homicidal mania. :-)
That's true. But Dublin gets a particular slagging because of what
happened when Queen Victoria came over to visit the country. Despised
they may be, but I think it's tinged with a bit more ire than is usual.
Keith Gaughan -- talideon.com
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by carrying away small stones...
...to make place for some really big nukes!