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Re: Grammar in HS (Was: Re: Argument Structures)

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Thursday, August 24, 2000, 3:13
"Thomas R. Wier" wrote:
> This is not at all my experience of learning English grammar all the way > from elementary through highschool. We may not have learned about > English phonetics or phonology, but we did go through quite rigorous > courses about syntax. Not to the level of college courses, certainly, > but we had to learn all about restrictive and nonrestrictive clauses, phrases > compound, complex, etc. In other words, what everyone *should* learn.
That was my experience as well. I can even remember taking sentences and marking "Subject" "Direct Objet", "Verb", "Auxiliary", etc. Phonetics certainly was almost never even mentioned, which is a shame, because a detailed description could probably have made it easier to learn to spell. I'm picking up some patterns that I'd never been taught that help spelling, like which words use -tch and which have -ch. I can even remember arguing that the double s's and double p in Mississippi were useless - I now, of course, see that they are necessary. My limited memory of learning to spell was by rote, they made us memorize lists of words, and I guess expected us to intuitively pick up the patterns.
> > (This, IMNSHO, is > > probably why the schwa sound is becoming increasingly prevalent in spoken > > English. > > Phonological developments have most often nothing to do with institutional > education systems. The schwa has been there for a long, long time.
Indeed, IS the schwa becoming more common? -- "Their bodies did not age, but they became afeared of everything and anything. For partaking in any activity at all could threaten their precious and ageless bodies! ... Their victory over death was a hollow one." ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor