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For a change, Russian pronunciation

From:Peter Clark <peter-clark@...>
Date:Monday, November 25, 2002, 2:03
On Sunday 24 November 2002 07:48 pm, Amanda Babcock wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 08:22:18PM -0500, David Peterson wrote: > > Ha! My goodness! Yeah, my mistake. I didn't mean i kratkaya; I > > meant the vowel that's usually represented in IPA as [i-].
Ah--you mean [1]. No, I can't think of any instance in which it would be realized as a diphthong. Pavel?
> My teacher called that "yeri" or "yer[self-referrential-thingie]", accent > on the second syllable. I can't recall ever having seen the word written, > though.
I've only heard it called "y" (/1/), which would make sense, since all of the vowels in Russian are named by their sounds. Perhaps it's an old slavonic name, similar to "az" and "buka"?
> I was not taught to pronounce that as a diphthong. I think pronouncing > it as a diphthong is how English-speakers deal with being unable to pin > down its actual sound :) It's actually a simple, self-contained sound, > at least in the dialect of Russian (presumably Muscovite?) that I was > drilled on.
The way I tell others is to say /i/, slide the tongue back to /u/, and then slide forward again halfway and stop. Or, say "kill" and strangle the vowel. :) My only difficulty is that whenever I want to saw [m1] ("we") I have to be careful not to end up saying [mw1]. I think it's because of the labial stop; I also have to guard against saying [bw1]. :Peter


John Cowan <jcowan@...>