Re: Rotokas (was: California Cheeseburger)

Quoting Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>:

> On Sunday, June 20, 2004, at 09:34 , Joe wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >> Basing an argument on a single item is a bit dodgy IMO, and names are
> >> ever
> >> less secure. Isn't this a bit like asking how can French not have the
> >> phoneme [tS] when the name of the language ends in [tS]?
> >
> >
> > YAEPTing, I know, but I couldn't resist.  In my ideolect, French is
> > [frEnS].
>
> Umm, yes - the same shift as French in the mid 13th century.
>
> Since it seems to be open season for picking nits, let's try this one:
> "Isn't this a bit like asking how can Spanish not have the phoneme [S]
> when the name of the language ends in [S]?"
Nitpicking season? Since you use square brackets, you probably mean "phone"
rather than "phoneme".

                                                 Andreas

PS While at it, let's analyze Spanish 'j' as /S/. I see no reason the Spaniards
should get off the hook when I don't. :)