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Re: Rotokas (was: California Cheeseburger)

From:Mark P. Line <mark@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 18:56
Nik Taylor said:
> "Mark P. Line" wrote: >> 1. The name 'Rotokas' is not a native Rotokas word (by inference, from #2 >> below). >> >> 2. There are no syllable-final consonants in Rotokas. >> >> 3. There are no consonant clusters in Rotokas. >> >> 4. Rotokas syllables are (C)V. My best guess is that the '350' in Crystal >> is a misprint. 7 x 5 = 35, not 350. > > I would guess at least 70, since long vowels contrast with short vowels,
7*5*2 = 70 Any sequence of vowels is possible in Rotokas, including two of the same vowel. There's no justification for positing separate phonemes for long vowels (or diphthongs).
> Number 2 doesn't rule out Rotokas as a native name. It could be simply
from a native *Rotokasi. Possibly. If so, it's the only form I've ever seen in which the final 'i' is elided. I'll ask. In any event, the form 'Rotokas' as it stands is phonotactically invalid in Rotokas, and I don't recall ever seeing it used in any Rotokas text. Orthographic 's' is a little suspicious in any event. The only phonological statements I've seen (by Skip Firchow) have given 6 consonant phonemes (not including /s/), but there are 7 consonant graphemes used to write the language (including 's', which only occurs before 'i'). I'll ask about that, too. (I don't know if Skip is still around, but somebody at the Ukarumpa installation will be able to help.) -- Mark

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