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Re: Rotokas (was: California Cheeseburger)

From:<jcowan@...>
Date:Thursday, June 17, 2004, 17:40
Mark P. Line scripsit:

> (If it had been said that Rotokas vowels occur *non-phonemically* > lengthened, then [a:] would just be an allophone of /a/. This is what > we have in English.)
Well, in most Englishes. In Australian English, vowel length is phonemic (sample minimal pair: [kap] 'cup', [ka:p] 'carp').
> > Why not? The standard romanization of many languages includes > > subphonemic distinctions. > > I can't think of any examples right now in modern, phonologically > engineered orthographies. Can you remind me of some?
Petitio principii. If I mention Hepburn Japanese, with its obviously sub-phonemic distinctions, you can retort that it's not modern and phonologically engineered enough. Similarly, Samoan orthography is modern and phonological, but does not represent the ongoing merger of /t/ and /k/. -- Here lies the Christian, John Cowan judge, and poet Peter, http://www.reutershealth.com Who broke the laws of God http://www.ccil.org/~cowan and man and metre. jcowan@reutershealth.com

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