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Re: Rotokas (was: California Cheeseburger)

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Sunday, June 20, 2004, 20:33
Ray Brown wrote:

> On Sunday, June 20, 2004, at 04:04 , Thomas R. Wier wrote: > >> From: "Mark P. Line" <mark@...> >> >>> I don't think we have any evidence that Rotokas has ever been analyzed >>> with so many syllables. Seeing the number '350' in a single *secondary* >>> source is not a good data point when we can find in a primary source >>> that >>> Rotokas has 11 phonemes and that its syllable structure is only (C)V. >> >> >> I'm jumping in here, and don't much of anything about Rotokas, but >> how can it have a (C)V syllable structure when the name of the >> language itself has a coda? Is there some constraint allowing word >> final codas but not word internal ones? > > > Eh? I thought it had been stated somewhere in this thread (about a week > back IIRC) that 'Rotokas' was *not* the native name of the language. > > Basing an argument on a single item is a bit dodgy IMO, and names are > ever > less secure. Isn't this a bit like asking how can French not have the > phoneme [tS] when the name of the language ends in [tS]?
YAEPTing, I know, but I couldn't resist. In my ideolect, French is [frEnS].

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Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>