Re: markjjones@HOTMAIL.COM

Hi!

You did it again?  Someone set his 'Reply-To' wrong, maybe?

> On Mar 6, 2005, at 11:02 PM, Steven Williams wrote:
> >  --- Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> schrieb:
> >> On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Steven Williams wrote:
> >>> Indeed, [D] and [D_g] sound almost identical. I
> >>> can't tell the difference myself, if it weren't
> >>> for the effect that the emphatics have on vowels.
>
> >> /D/ and /D_g/ sound very distinct to me.  They also
> >> feel very different when i pronounce them.
>
> > Am I doing it wrong, then? I'm pronouncing a [D], but
> > I'm raising the back part of my tongue to the velum,
> > the sides of my tongue touching my teeth. Very
> > difficult articulation for me to make; I'm also trying
> > to imitate as best I can sound samples I find on the
> > Internet, since I don't know any native Arabic
> > speakers personally to ask them for pointers.
>
> Noooo....
> You want _pharyngealization_, not _velarization_!
> Pull the back part of your tongue *down and back*!
> It's like a coarticulated |`ayin| pharyngeal approximant/fricative.
> That explains why you were using the "velarized" diacritic...
> Think /D_?\/, not /D_G/.
Bye,
  Henrik

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