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Re: Split nominative and Nik's new project

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Sunday, November 15, 1998, 0:14
Sally Caves wrote:
> Wasn't this giving the listener more information than > was needed? There's a reason why you have to distinguish between A and P, > because these two can coexist in the same clause; but what's the > functional reason for distinguishing between A and S in a > nominative/accusative language? (yours? definitely mine)
Well, what's the use in marking gender on adjectives? Why shouldn't languages give the listener more info than needed? But anyways, there is a reason for it. Teonaht, as you pointed out, also makes that volitional/non-volitional in verbs, mine doesn't. So, by way of the noun (and only via the noun), one can distinguish between "he killed him (intentionally)" and "he killed him (accidentally)" or "she ran (intentionally)" and "she ran ("accidentally")" - in that last pair, the distinction would actually work out to be more of "she ran [to exercise or for fun]" and "she ran [to escape the big scary monster that wanted to eat him]". Of course, in practice, there would be certain verbs that by their very nature would contain volitionality. For example, "murder" in English is by definition volitional, and you wouldn't say "she accidentally murdered him". There might be words like that which couldn't take the volitional nominative or the non-volitional nominative. P.S., I shouldn't have posted that info at that point - I've changed nearly all of it, but not the split-nominative. -- "It has occured to me more than once that holy boredom is good and sufficient reason for the invention of free will." - "Lord Leto II" (Dune Chronicles, by Frank Herbert) ICQ #: 18656696 AOL screen-name: NikTailor