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Re: USAGE: front vowel tensing [was: English notation]

From:jesse stephen bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Sunday, July 1, 2001, 9:44
Lars Henrik Mathiesen sikayal:

> I have a related question here. According to some authorities (hi And > and Ray), <pays> is /pEiz/ but <says> is /sEz/ in normal British > pronunciation. > > However, with some speakers I'm sure I hear a different continuant > sound after the /E/ in the latter form. To my Danish ears, it sounds > like my own postalveolar /D/. Can anyone else hear it, or am I crazy?
I think this may be native language interference. When approaching the alveolar ridge for a fricative, the tongue must necessarily pass through the region for an approximant. Since your native language includes such an alveolar approximant, you perceive that sound even though there isn't any separate articulatory gesture to create it. A similar thing happened to me with the Spanish /ñ/, which a native speaker in my phonetics class pronounces as a pure palatal nasal. I could accept that the sound included a palatal nasal, but I insisted on hearing a palatal off-glide, too. After a lot of articulating and careful listening I finally conceded that the off-glide was a figment of my English-speaking imagination. I think that something similar may have happened to you. Not that I'm an expert on this variety of English or on Dutch--just offering a suggestion. Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu "If you look at a thing nine hundred and ninety-nine times, you are perfectly safe; if you look at it the thousandth time, you are in frightful danger of seeing it for the first time." --G.K. Chesterton