Re: Unconventional pronoun systems-show us yours!
From: | Steven Williams <feurieaux@...> |
Date: | Sunday, August 29, 2004, 14:06 |
--- Estel Telcontar <estel_telcontar@...>
schrieb:
> Steven Williams ha tera a:
>
> > Anyone have an unconventional pronoun system to
> share,
> > or criticism of my own system?
>
> Well, one of the languages I dream about but never
> actually work out
> the details of has a pretty odd pronoun system.
>
> It's spoken by one man in a mental institution, and
> was probably
> invented by him, which explains a good deal of its
> oddness (which
> extends to far more than just its pronoun system).
>
> It has no second-person pronouns - no second-person
> forms at all,
> whether pronouns, or inflections, or anything else.
> The man generally
> doesn't address others, but just speaks to himself
That's about how the Gi-an-nain system started out in
my mind. I decided to get rid of the first and second
person forms and keep a rather rich set of third
person pronouns. However, this seemed boring, and I
was struck by a bolt of inspiration while reading
about Dyirbal.
Dyirbal uses a wacky split case system that is divided
along the lines of discourse participant and discourse
non-participant; I forget the specific details, but I
loved the split. So, I discarded everything but that
split between participant and non-participant.
Fortunately, Gi-an-nain is just as pro-drop as
Japanese, so I need not worry myself much over it.
That, and case particles by themselves may be used as
pronouns in informal speech, making the split somewhat
irrelevant (but there is a strong tendency to use them
only for objects that are not a part of the discourse).
=====
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"All idols must die."
--Einstürzende Neubauten, "Seele Brennt" (Soul is on Fire)
"Where am I? What is this thing called 'the world'? Who is it who has lured me into
the thing, and now leaves me here? How did I come into the world? Why was I not
consulted?"
--Søren Kierkegaard
"You need not leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. You need
not even listen, simply wait, just learn to become quiet, and still, and
solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked. It has no
choice; it will roll in ecstasy at your feet."
--Franz Kafka, Journals
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