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Re: PolyD Verbs

From:Jeffrey Jones <jsjonesmiami@...>
Date:Saturday, April 7, 2007, 3:20
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:33:04 -0700, David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...>
wrote:

>Jeff wrote: ><< >HA = Higher Argument - the person higher on the person hierarchy >LA = Lower Argument - the person lower on the person hierarchy >A3 = Argument 3 - the 3rd argument >Align = Alignment - direct, inverse, or reciprocal >Voice = Voice - active, passive, or reflexive >Deriv = Derivationals >Mood = Mood >PA/RT = Primary Aspect/Relative Tense >SA = Secondary Aspect > >> > >So...focusing on the alignment and voice sections...you have an >inverse system in addition to passive morphology? So let's say >you have a 1st person argument and a 3rd person argument >with a...hmm. Okay, let's stick with that. > >Direct + Active: I affect him. >Inverse + Active: He affects me. >Reciprocal + Active: I affect him and he affects me. (We affect each >other.) > >This is pretty standard. The next six are what confuse me a bit. >Assuming that the second argument is left in in a passive verb >(otherwise the alignment morphology wouldn't play any role >at all)...
I didn't explain this very well; the second argument _isn't_ left in the passive or reflexive verb and neither is the alignment. I probably should have broken it down as LA-Align-A3-PA/RT-SA-Root-Deriv-Mood-HA and A3-PA/RT-SA-Root-Deriv-Mood-HA/LA-Voice with the former for active and the latter for passive and reflexive. (I'm not sure if the suffixed person counts as the higher argument or the lower one; probably the lower)
>Direct + Passive: I'm affected by him. >Inverse + Passive: He's affected by me. >Reciprocal + Passive: I'm affected by him and he's affected by me. >(We're affected by each other.) > >And then... > >Direct + Reflexive: I affect myself (and he...?). >Inverse + Reflexive: He affects himself (and I...?). >Reciprocal + Reflexive: I affect myself and he affects himself (and >we...?).
This reciprocal + reflexive actually looks useful.
>Assuming that for the last six you only have one argument, what >would the inverse and reciprocals mean?
If I were using inverse + passive it could be antipassive, but I didn't need that.
>Also, how does the contrafactual /u/ become an [E]?
By means of a typo! It should look like koresumastun [kO.XE.su'mas.tun] k-ore- su-mat-s -u -n 1S-Rcp-Ret-see-RC-Ctf-2S "We would have looked at each other"
> >Looks cool so far!
Thanks!
> >-David >**********************************************************
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