Re: Lïzxvööse Verbs I: ActiveTri-Consonantals

Dan Seriff wrote:
>
> "SMITH,MARCUS ANTHONY" wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Thomas R. Wier wrote:
> >
> > > The lengthening here is very normal when there is loss of some
> > > kind.   However, geminate consonants are basically defined by
> > > a break in syllables lying between them.
> >
> > This is not true. There are languages in this world that have word final
> > geminates, which hardly spans a syllable break. Pima does this eg, hott
> > 'send' (in Papago this is hotsh). There is also the word hottk 'swift';
> > And I have dim recollections of being told Estonian does as well, though
> > I'm not so sure about this one. I would be rather surprised to see a word
> > medial geminate that does not span a syllable boundary, but I suppose it
> > is not completely impossible.
>
> It's certainly the way I pronounced it when I was trying to figure out a
> reasonable sound change for the abominable cluster [t4D], which I would
> imagine doesn't appear in any language.
Y'know, now that I've thought about it a little more, it might be more
realistic for the gemination to happen in the opposite direction. So
instead of <tatrzcaa> coming out as [tAttDA:], it would probably be
realized as [tA4:DA:]. I like that better, actually. So the rule is now:

        /C[stop]r/ -> [4:] / _C

With an adjustment in POA for a preceding dorsal stop:

        /C[dorsal stop]r/ -> [r":] / _C

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