Re: OT: Socialism (WAS: Re: Saving endangered langs (was Re: Extrapolating languages)
| From: | J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...> |
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| Date: | Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 4:38 |
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In a message dated 2003:12:22 09:59:28 AM, andjo@FREE.FR writes:
>Quoting Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@...>:
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>> Is socialism any better at it? No, except that
>> such governments steal more money and therefore
>> have more to spend on those projects if they deem
>> them necessary.
>
>I hope I don't start a political flamefest here, but Socialist governments
>having _more_ money? I'd say the evidence points pretty squarely to
>socialistically run countries tend to be poorer than Capitalistic and Mixed-
>Economy ones.
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>(Then I've got problems with the whole concept of governments _stealing_
>money - without them, there wouldn't _be_ money - but that's another kettle
>of inflammable fish. I shall apparently never understand how people can
believe
>that Capitalism can function without a state with strong repressive powers,
>but let's not debate that here ...)
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paleo-conservative ideal of the ultra-capitalistic "Free Market"
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