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Re: Introductions and a question about consonants

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 14:22
En réponse à Peter Bleackley <Peter.Bleackley@...>:

> Hello! I'm Pete Bleackley, I'm an astrophysicist by education and an > engineer by employment.
Welcome to the list from a Ph.D. student in fluid dynamics! ;)))
> Here are some examples > gl -> w, fh -> v > Glafhol -> Wavol [Horseman, member of horseman tribe] > lw -> y > *Wavolwavol -> Wavoyavol [multiple number of wavol] > ly -> r > *Wavolyagon -> Wavoragon [Wavol-language] > thg -> t, nt -> ng > Khangathgevont -> Khangatevong [wizard] > > The multiple number, by the way, is distict from plural in that it > refers > to a definate number of items, whereas plural refers to in indefinate > number. >
Funny, that's also something Maggel does, and I just replied an email which asked more info on it ;))) . Maybe Jan will want to ask you when the multiple number is used, and when the plural is (I call them for Maggel "plural definite" and "plural indefinite").
> My question is, how can I put this on a more systematic basis? Making > up > ad-hoc mutations for every possible consonant cluster seem like the > wrong > thing to do!
Usually changes depend on Place of Articulation of the consonants and closure of the mouth (stops, fricatives, etc...). So maybe you could organise your sounds changes depending on PoA and decide that the same kind of change happens to every sound in this PoA. But it *may* be that every cluster changes according to its own rules. It's not common (sounds usually have quite a herd instinct and tend stick together, and thus move together) but not impossible. Of course, it seems to me that with the sound changes you already have, it may be difficult to systematise it. But maybe a bigger list of cluster changes would help having a better view of the problem.
> Any help will be much appreciated. From what I've seen on websites, > there > seems to be a really good conlanging community about. >
Indeed there is! Happy that you decided to become part of it :)) . Welcome again! Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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Peter Bleackley <peter.bleackley@...>