Re: Betreft: Re: Lip-plates
From: | Anthony M. Miles <theophilus88@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, June 13, 2000, 13:31 |
>From: Rob Nierse <rnierse@...>
>Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...>
>To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU
>Subject: Betreft: Re: Lip-plates
>Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:03:51 +0200
>
>On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Kristian Jensen wrote:
>There are
> > also cultures where only about half of the community
> > wear lip-plates (e.g. only men). Would that create a
> > situation where there are two different phonologies for
> > the same language (e.g. men don't have rounded
> > vowels, while women and children do)?
>
>Once I saw an example of a natlang (forgot the name) that
>has two phonologies: women say [r@k@rk@n] where
>men say [c@k@cc@n] or the other way round.
>That inspired me for a conlang where men pronounce
>the /s/ as [r]. Also, /pp/ is pronounced by men as [p'] and by
>women as [ph].
>
>Rob
>(de-lurking for a little while)
What is its name? Does [r]< [z], an allphone of /s/?
I have the Cambridge Language Surveys' _The languages of Australia_ by Dixon
here with me. The Lardil tribe of Mornington Island speak Lardil, but until
'recently' also spoke a secret language called Damin. Damin possessed four
nasalized clicks, an ingressive lateral fricative, a glottalized velar stop,
an ejective bilabial stop, a fourth vowel, and used length as a
non-contrastive feature. None of these appear in Lardil. Lardil has nineteen
pronouns and several demonstratives; Damin has a dinstinction between 'ego'
and 'other', lacking even first, second, and third person pronouns. The
grammatical structure, however, is identical to Lardil.
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