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Re: Betreft: Re: Lip-plates

From:Anthony M. Miles <theophilus88@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 13, 2000, 13:31
>From: Rob Nierse <rnierse@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU >Subject: Betreft: Re: Lip-plates >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:03:51 +0200 > >On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Kristian Jensen wrote: >There are > > also cultures where only about half of the community > > wear lip-plates (e.g. only men). Would that create a > > situation where there are two different phonologies for > > the same language (e.g. men don't have rounded > > vowels, while women and children do)? > >Once I saw an example of a natlang (forgot the name) that >has two phonologies: women say [r@k@rk@n] where >men say [c@k@cc@n] or the other way round. >That inspired me for a conlang where men pronounce >the /s/ as [r]. Also, /pp/ is pronounced by men as [p'] and by >women as [ph]. > >Rob >(de-lurking for a little while)
What is its name? Does [r]< [z], an allphone of /s/? I have the Cambridge Language Surveys' _The languages of Australia_ by Dixon here with me. The Lardil tribe of Mornington Island speak Lardil, but until 'recently' also spoke a secret language called Damin. Damin possessed four nasalized clicks, an ingressive lateral fricative, a glottalized velar stop, an ejective bilabial stop, a fourth vowel, and used length as a non-contrastive feature. None of these appear in Lardil. Lardil has nineteen pronouns and several demonstratives; Damin has a dinstinction between 'ego' and 'other', lacking even first, second, and third person pronouns. The grammatical structure, however, is identical to Lardil. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com