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Re: THEORY: Sandhi

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Monday, December 3, 2001, 23:58
From: "Cheng Zhong Su" <suchengzhong@...>
> As for hard to learn, it will depend > on what we want. If we want knowing more in life time, > we has to detect more information in every single oral > actions.
Er, not actually. An example is that lang "Ehmayghee chah" where all the numbers were single syllables with the same consonant and different vowels. 1234567890 - gay ghee guy gaw gow gah geh gih ga(t) goh. He used no phonetic representation so it's not easy to tell what sounds exactly he meant, but it's clear that such a system would be useless in an area with imperfect transmission quality (such as, say, over some cell phones...) because *the information is too tightly condensed*. If you miss a bit, the whole word is lost or misunderstood. (Dunamy suffers from this too, actually: 345 are /f@/ /fo/ /fAv\/) An optimal language will have a balanced signal-to-noise ratio....
> After all, when we used to the system, > it want be a hard job, some tone language children > even don't know what is a 'tone'.
Actually, it's irrelevant whether they know what a tone is. (Do English-speaking children generally know what 'stress' is?) What matters is that they can _produce_ tones, whether they know what they are doing or not. (Grammar still exists, even if it isn't studied!) And if someone whose mother tongue is toneless wants to learn a second language that happens to be a tonal language, then they _will_ have to *both* know what a tone is *and* learn to produce them. *Muke!

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Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>signal and noise in phonologies and scripts
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