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Re: Poetics/Aesthetics: NOMAD MANIFESTO by Pierre Joris

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Thursday, April 29, 2004, 0:59
In a message dated 2004:04:28 10:15:06 AM, draqonfayir@JUNO.COM writes:

>On Apr 28, 2004, at 8:27 AM, J Y S Czhang wrote: >> The monorhyme scheme (something obviously impossible to reproduce >> or use >> in English -- though some dubb poetry tries something similar but with >> great >> constricting, limiting results) is interesting however for nomad >> thought. It is > > >Do you know what he meant by _'dubb' poetry_? >In NYC Judeo-Syrian English, "(jay)dubb" means 'non-Syrian', or >specifically 'Ashkenazic'.
Good question. In a message dated 2004:04:28 11:19:57 AM, cowan@CCIL.ORG writes:
>Steg Belsky scripsit: > >> Do you know what he meant by _'dubb' poetry_? > >Usually spelled "dub poetry". It's -- briefly put -- Jamaican political >rap. > >> In NYC Judeo-Syrian English, "(jay)dubb" means 'non-Syrian', or >> specifically 'Ashkenazic'. > >Coincidence, surely.
Despite seeing that Prof. Joris uses a "hella-lotta" inferences and allusions, he very rarely makes spelling mistakes. So it mayhaps be deliberate. (We can email him, ya know...) Steg, so your "guess" might be right - IIRC there is a Jewish _dubb_ poetry&music movement in NYC (not to be _totally_ confused with "Jamican Dub" but somewhat related along the lines of Oral Poetry and Poetry Slams and whatnot). --- Hanuman Zhang, _Gomi no sensei_ [Master of junk] <A HREF="">=></A> "To live is to scrounge, taking what you can in order to survive. So, since living is scrounging, the result of our efforts is to amass a pile of rubbish." ~ ChuangTzu/Zhuangzi, China, 4th Century BCE "...So what is life for? Life is for beauty and substance and sound and colour; and even those are often forbidden by law [socio-cultural conventions]. . .Why not be free and live your own life? Why follow other people's rules and live to please others?..." ~ Lieh-Tzu/Liezi, Taoist Sage (c. 450- 375 BCE) "Taoism in a nutshell: Shit Happens. Roll with the Punches. Hang 10 ~ Go with the Flow!" ~ anon. California Surfer~Beatnik, c.1950's/1960's "[The modern economist] is used to measuring the 'standard of living' by the amount of annual consumption, assuming all the time that a man who consumes more is 'better off' than a man who consumes less. "A Buddhist economist would consider this approach excessively irrational: since consumption is merely a means to human well- being, the aim should be to obtain the maximum of well-being with the minimum of consumption." ~ E.F. Schumacher, _Small is Beautiful_ "Western man not merely blighted in some degree every culture that he touched, whether 'primitive' or advanced, but he also robbed his own descendants of countless gifts of art and craftsmanship, as well as precious knowledge passed on only by word of mouth that disappeared with the dying languages of dying peoples...." ~ Lewis Mumford, _The Pentagon of Power: The Myth of the Machine_ "Anarchism's great project is to dissolve the asymmetry of power. How? There are thousands of alternatives and there is not only one solution. To advance 'one' solution would be a doctrine of power, a manifestation of power." ~ Venezuelan University Academic Alfredo Vallota quoted in _El Libertario_