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Re: Hebrew and Conlangs

From:Isaac A. Penzev <isaacp@...>
Date:Friday, February 28, 2003, 8:43
Katav Dan Sulani:

> First of all, Ivrit does not only refer to post-Ben Eliezer Israeli lang. > It refers to the lang of the Bible and all subsequent stages of its > development. > And those stages are fully documented. > Hebrew has never ceased to be a vehicle of communication > among Jews, and as such, has changed over time (and, like any > other language in use, has borrowed words and been influenced > by other langs over time.) > The thing is that, about 2000 years ago, Hebrew ceased to be > a vernacular, spoken by the masses of people. > Learned people still spoke it to each other and wrote in it. > While unlearned _Ashkenazi_ (European) Jews might have spoken > Yiddish to each other (And other types of Jews _did_ exist and they > did _not_ speak Yiddish), learned Jews who had no other lang in common > did, in fact, communicate orally in Hebrew! > Yiddish, AFAIK, was heavily influenced by Hebrew, not the > other way around! Modern Hebrew, regarding its grammar, > is a Semitic lang in all regards. It is _not_ words from the Bible > pasted onto a Germanic or Slavic grammar!
I can only say that I agree with Dr.Sulani "mea achuz" (100%)
> The significance of Ben Eliezer is that he helped institute > a massive development of Hebrew in a short time, so that it > could deal with all the things one would need to refer to in a > modern technological culture. And he didn't create words > out of his head.
Well, there are some words that were indeed *invented* by Ben Yehudah, but most of his innovations (like |sach-rachok| for 'telephone') have not survived (and you have |telefon| now).
> Let's just say that passions were running hot on all sorts of topics, > in those days, including which lang should be spoken.
"If there are two Jews, you'll find five opinions among them" (a Yiddish saying). Yitzik ~~~~~~~~~~~~~