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Re: WEB (was Has anyone made a real conlang?)

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 23, 2003, 4:11
In a message dated 2003:04:22 07:30:49 AM, christophe.grandsire@FREE.FR
writes:

>En réponse � Stone Gordonssen : > >>For me, this brings up a very disturbing idea, becoming [prevalently] today >>amongst youth, that anything not on the web is insignificant. > >I've had exactly the same impression. *shudders*
Me, too. I used to know a kid via online chats who was very artistic and extremely bright... Suddenly he was getting into websites about a music group called "Death in June", Historical Revisionism, debunking the Holocaust, ZOG/Jewish Cabal conspiracy theories, and hating Muslims as "Christian Europe's historical religious enemy," etc. I tried getting him to visit other websites that have more historical validity and sources and that are not full of ideological posturing and hormonal derangement. I pointed out that without the Arabs most of the West would not have gotten into algebra, chemistry, medicine, ethics, philosophy, the Greek Classics, etc. ... or even return to the basic hygienic Roman habit of shaving & bathing. I was not even given a blinkin' chance to even start a briefing * on the contributions of Jews to world civilization... ( * it would have been long even if I tried to be brief!) Long story short... I cut him off harshly when he started saying things like he was only being "proud" of his "White European heritage." Funny thing is he knew I was Chinese-Indonesian with some Russian-Jewish traces. Some people reaaaallly test my tolerance levels... Moral: the web is _definitely_ not the end-all and be-all of the Fount of Wisedom. I trust reference books and the public library way more... and that is also with a grain of salt. I wish there was trustable Google-like fact-checker bot... something as rigourous as an Orthodox rabbi, vigilant like a Zen roshi, rabid like a Southern Baptist minister in summer revival (or rabid like the Southern junkyard canine equivalent). Until then, I always have John Cowan, Padraic Brown, Roger Milly, Herman Miller, Dirk Elzinga, Kou, Teoh, Christophe Grandsire, etc. as "fact-check back-up"... ;) (I am not even gonna ask pardon for all the allusive puns contained in my writing style :P~~~~ ) --- Hanuman Zhang §� � ∞� � 69� � ∞� � § @� §� � ∞� � 69� � ∞� � § @� §� � ∞� � 69� � ∞� � § @� §� � ∞� � 69� � ∞� � §� � "Those at the top of the social order are apt to preach benevolence and righteousness to those at the bottom. Yet those at the top have typically stolen their position from others. They are the greatest thieves, because they have stolen the greatest amount of land and other property. So words about benevolence and righteousness are usually the fruit of robbery." - Chuang Tzu/Zhuangzi "O wise humanity, terribly wise humanity! Of thee I sing. How inscrutable is the civilization where men toil and work and worry their hair gray to get a living and forget to play!" - Lin Yutang, _The Importance of Living_ "...So what is life for? Life is for beauty and substance and sound and colour; and even those are often forbidden by law [socio-cultural conventions]. . . . Why not be free and live your own life? Why follow other people's rules and live to please others?..." ~Lieh-Tzu/Liezi, Taoist Sage (c. 450- c. 375 BCE) "...we may be able to prove conclusively that all men are born with potentially brilliant intellects...and that the source of cultural creativity is the consciousness that springs from social cooperation and loving interaction...the majority of us live far below our potential, because of the oppressive nature of most societies." - John Blacking "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage --- to move in the opposite direction." - E. F. Schumacker "Excess is excrement. Excrement retained in the body is poison." - Ursula Le Guin "A man's character is determined by how hard he will fight for what he believes in." - Aben Kandel "There is no total revolution, there is only _perpetual_ Revolution, real life, like love, dazzling at every moment." - Paul Eluard => To Thine Own Self Be True <=

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