Re: THEORY: Cases of Core Arguments in Clauses with Three Core Arguments

From: Tom Chappell
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:46 AM
Subject: THEORY: Cases of Core Arguments in Clauses with
Three Core Arguments

<<< But, in a lot of languages, "Leonardo" in sentence 1)
would be in the same case as "the Pope" in sentence 2).  In
these languages, this is a kind of "dative-ablative" case.
[...] In a lot of languages, "for the Duke" in all of these
sentences (3, 4, and 5) would be in the benefactive case.
[...] But, in a lot of languages, "the Duke" in sentences
3), 4), and 5) would be in the same case as "Leonardo" in
sentence 1).  In these languages, this is a kind of
"dative-benefactive" case. [...]

(i) Does anyone know of specific natural languages
illustrating all of the above?
(ii) Does anyone know of a systematic treatment of the above
phenomena?
(iii) Would anyone like to point out something related to
these questions in one or more conlangs they know about?
[...] >>>

You know, what you asked about third arguments in the recent
time really makes me want to start another conlang project
to test your stuff. I'm sorry that I can't answer to your
questions (except the very last one), though.

<<< If a house-fly should lose its wings, would we
English-speakers have to call it a house-walk? >>>

In German, a joke goes, "Warum heißt ein Pferd 'Pferd'? --
Weil es auf der Erde steht. Wenn es fliegen könnte, würde es
ja 'Pfluft' heißen" ("Why is a horse called 'horse'? --
Because it's standing on the ground. If it could fly, it had
to be called 'hair'." [that does not make much sense in
English])

Yours
Carsten B. in HE

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