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Re: Q & X

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Monday, January 8, 2001, 23:09
Tero Vilkesalo wrote:
> Kukko means 'rooster' or 'cock'
I wonder if _kukko_ and _cock_ are cognates? I know that the Finns borrowed from the Germanic tribes long long ago, and maybe the other way around too.
> -nen is the a very common ending in surnames.
What's it mean? Is it a case ending?
> My new surname, Vilkesalo, is purely Finnish as well, just like my > roots. I did have a thought of how foreign people would pronounce it. This > surname really didn't seem too difficult. Or what do you say?
I doubt it would be too badly mutilated, assuming that the correct pronunciation is something like /vilkesalo/, altho most English-speakers would probably say something like /vIlk@salo/, I think, but that's not too far. And English-speakers will mutilate the simplest of names. :-)
> Something about articles... If I would ask you anything, it would probably > be "should I try use the articles even if I couldn't care less?"
Do you mean in conlangs? Anything goes, a lot of people don't have articles in their conlangs. My main conlang, Uatakassí, doesn't, and my secondary one, Román, does, but I'm not yet clear on its use.
> And now to a real question. Which sounds do you write with the letter Q or X > in your a priori conlangs with Latin alphabet? What different sounds do they > reflect in those languages of the world that use Latin alphabet? (What is Q > in Greenlandic???)
Román (a Romance language, as you might've guessed) has no {q} - Latin qu became p - and {x} is /x/ (velar fricative - like Spanish {j}) word-initially, and /ts/ elsewhere, it's very rare in non-initial position, in initial position, it's typically derived from sc- (which sounds reversed early on from /sk/ to /ks/, hence the respelling with {x}). In Greenlandic, I believe it's the same as in Romanized Arabic (and Klingon), i.e., a uvular stop. A uvular stop is pronounced further back in the throat than a {k}, so that your tongue touches the flap in the back of your throat.
> Furthermore, they look neater than those kh and sh.
Personally, I prefer {sh} over {x}, {x} makes me think of the velar fricative. But, just a matter of personal taste. :-) -- ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42