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Re: Myers-Briggs (was: Lunatic Survey)

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Monday, October 5, 1998, 0:29
On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, Tom Wier wrote:

> Josh Roth wrote: > > > >Have fun! Maybe we should have someone make a little analysis > > >of personality types here, collect and analyse.
Why not?
> > > > Well I just took the test and I got "temperament--Idealist : NF, variant > > temperament--Counselor : INFJ" > > Am I the only extrovert on the list ?!? :) > > I'm ENTJ, as I said.
No; I'm an extrovert as well (can't you tell? G). I wonder, however, if the listserv as a whole features a majority of introverted people? i.e., that this activity is one that appeals to introversion? And what about "judging"? that "j" at the end? Anybody out there who is "P"-- perceiving? I took the thing last night and I came out as Extroverted/Intuitive/Feeling/Judging, and they put me in the TEACHER category... which astounded me, as that after all is what I am. My husband took the test and came out as a COUNSELOR INFJ. He's a musician, though. They didn't guess him as an artisan. I found taking the test a little frustrating, as the categories they sometimes opposed to each other were both traits I'd choose, but which depended on different circumstances. So despite the fact that I think this thing is tremendously clever, it doesn't really cover all nuances (just like any personality test--it relies on generalities). I wonder if any of you has ever heard of the Human Engineering Laboratory? Now that was the test that my parents paid to have me take back in the sixties and seventies. For personality, it had only two categories, on a scale from one to a hundred, the extremes being "subjective" and "objective" in combination with extrovert and introvert. The subjective personality was one that worked best in an environment in which he or she could be in control of their activity and product, and chose careers in which they had more autonomy (like artisans, scientists, and so forth). The objectiv personality was one that worked best in an environment in which he or she shared a cooperative task with other people, and who enjoyed delegating responsibility, being involved in teamwork, and so forth, and who chose careers accordingly: teachers, politicians, corporate workers etc. Now this of course has a wide range of overlap, and one can have traits of both. But the test, which was long and involved as I recall, tried to probe the many dimensions of one's position on this scale. Other tests were more aptitude oriented and probed such things as: pitch discrimination, structural visualization, verbal memory, tonal memory, inductive and deductive reasoning, foresight, handedness and eyedness (a surprising number of people are right-handed and left-eyed, which indicates, I can't remember what: mixed brain dominance, which is DIFFERENT, I think, from cross brain dominance...?). There was a vocabulary test, too. So that at the end of the test you have a huge chart of your personality and your aptitudes. I remember that at age seventeen, when I finished taking the last test, they sat me down and advised me that I would find satisfaction teaching and writing in a small liberal arts college, where I spent the winters interacting and the summers writing--that my interest in languages, fiction, and art didn't necessarily need a subjective personality to find the best outlet. I was surprised, because I hadn't told them (at least in so many words) that what I saw as my career was exactly that. So I was astonished when the Briggs-Myers test came up with TEACHER: eNFj last night. The Human Engineeering Laboratory had successfully kicked the old proverb "them as can do; them as can't teach" in the ass where it deserves. Some artists and linguists and writers thrive in environments where they are part of a cooperative team. Put me in a situation where I must hole myself up for months and months producing all on my own time, and I go nuts. Like leave last semester. I like a community. I found you guys, didn't I? And I sure am more expressive than attentive: look at me going on and on like this. Is this list turning into a massive core dump of self- revelations? <G> Nothin' wrong with that! Sally
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