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Re: Short tentative Ramyo translation

From:Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>
Date:Saturday, November 3, 2001, 18:25
On Friday, November 2, 2001, at 10:21 , Muke Tever wrote:

> Ramyo (aka Daimyo) is still a very infant-stage language. >
Hey, conlangs all have to start somewhere, right? BTW, random humorous note: since Daimyo looks Japanese, I find myself thinking of ramen when I see ramyo (especially since in Korean it's ramyeon).
> I just now have invented a rather clumsy orthography that can handle all > its > consonants. >
Clumsy, hell. I like your pitch markers. They're quite easy to remember (especially as someone who doesn't speak a tone language).
> "Pirqoo gnägnäjhäändhquguudme mawqjhõjnatho." > /pi4?o: N&N&j\&:nD?ugu:dmE mAw?j\7~JATo/ > > very roughly, 'The rain isn't helping our dehydration' >
> Interlinear mit notes: > {qoo} /?o:/ and several other affixes have no phonemic pitch, but get it > "inferred" from the surrounding--in this case, because it's a long vowel > following a high pitch, it becomes falling pitch {pi+rqoo^} /pi4?o:/. > > gnR-gnR-.jhä > our .dry .sick .NMLZR >
<intrigued look> What are the general rules for how the pitch gets inferred from the previous one? You give the one example :-) so I'm wondering about other rules.
> {R} here is just a notation saying that this vowel is unspecified and > must be > filled in by the next vowel (in this case the {ä} in {jhä-ndhi+} /j\&nDi/ > , so: > {gnägnäjhä...} >
Oh, nice. What a neat idea!
> ({me} is the main nominalizer for class VII roots like {qu-g-d}... {qoo} > is for > class II roots like {p+r}. Class II is mainly verbs, and Class VII > appears to > be states and condtions of the body, and also smells for some reason) >
(Muke, this *so* doesn't sound like an infant-stage conlang to me. <G> Perhaps that's because my idea of infant-stage is a phonology with hardly any grammar and no morphology!)
> {jhõ-jna+} /j\7~JA/ actually does mean to ruin, or to spoil... in Ramyo > you may > cure people, but you don't cure diseases (you don't want the sickness to > get > stronger, do you?) >
ROTFL! Another neat idea. I'm looking forward to seeing more. ^_^ Yoon Ha Lee [] "640K ought to be enough for anybody"--Bill Gates, 1981