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Re: Implosive consonants, dynamism, moods

From:Carsten Becker <post@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 19:47
From: Trebor Jung
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 4:41 PM
Subject: Implosive consonants, dynamism, moods

<< Merhaba!

I have a few questions as usual:

1. What are implosive consonants?

2. Can anyone give me more examples of dynamism

3. Could someone give me a list of moods with sample sentences?
--Trebor >>

Well, so I try, too. Warning: I'm also quite new to those things and it
might be wrong what I write:

1.  Has already been explained. Place your tongue at the normal places,
    but breathe in instead of out when you pronounce the phoneme.
    Looking up in my DE <-> EN dictionary, "schnalzen" is "to click one's
    tongue" in English. That implies even "schnalzen" is about clicks.
    E.g. put the tip of your tongue at your upper teeth, but the "body" of
    the tongue must be lower than the tip and must be kind of tense, similar
    to when you pronounce [l] (a plain [l], not a "dark l" as in English).
    Then pull down the tip of your tongue, and you'll produce the sound like
    horses do with their hooves. I wonder whether this may be this is an
    alveolar click?

2.  I'm sorry, I don't know about that myself. But yes - it's kind of
    completion like in English "progressive" >> "normal" forms. Look at
    http://www.zompist.com/native.htm#Dynamic and
    http://www.spinnoff.com/zbb/viewtopic.php?p=56667 - maybe this helps
    to understand better.

3.  Well, e.g. passive is a mood, imperative is a mood, indicative, etc.
    etc. you'll certainly have heard about these in <place your L1> lessons.
    For Daléian, e.g., I used additionally permissive (when you ask for
    permission), negative and as semi-mood (because it's not an own way to
    inflect verbs) purposive (e.g. like in "something to sit n" =>
"something
    for on-sitting"). And not to forget, all adjectives are inflected for
    person and gender - like normal verbs, but with a special ending. Ask
    our Japanese geeks for more reasons to inflect verbs - because that's
    what moods are about AFAI understood it. I think you can have an
infinite
    number of moods if you like to. But never choose too many, like John
    Quijada (I think it was he who said there are confusing many reasons
    for inflecting verbs in his conlang Ithkuil).


Carsten Becker

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