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CHAT: Northrop Frye

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Thursday, November 18, 1999, 23:16
Patrick Dunn wrote:

> Yes, particularly divorced from context -- like, for example, he's > complaining that it's proper for the minority to criticize the majority, > but the majority cannot criticize the minority.
I don't read it (in context) as a complaint at all. In any event, ethnic slurs are not a matter of a group criticizing another group, but of an individual criticizing another individual *because of* group membership, a very different matter.
> This is like complaining > that it's immoral to rape twelve year old girls -- matters of hierarchal > power structure come into play.
I think this example is severely overblown. It would be just as immoral to rape people at an equal level in the hierarchy.
> Really? Did you read [Anatomy of Criticism]?
Many times.
> Okay, just kidding. I slogged my weary way > through it and got sick of the circles within circles, wheels within > wheels, and interlocking cycles within interlocking cycles -- all > essentially useless in actually *analyzing* literature.
Well, I'm not a professional literature-analyzer, but it seemed to me an excellent existence proof for the notion that there is, in fact, a total order of words.
> In fact, Frye > didn't use it himself, even in _Fearful Symmetry_,
Umm, FS predated AC.
> which *was* brilliant > (first time someone was able to explain Blake without shrugging and > saying, "as for Blake, he was just nuts").
Agreed. -- John Cowan Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! / Schliess eurer Aug vor heiliger Schau Den er genoss vom Honig-Tau / Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)